Knarfling
1st July 2001, 00:31
I know that this had been discussed to death. I also know that telling someone that their Asmodean theory is wrong is something like telling a mother that her favorite child is ugly. But, although my conclusion has been discussed a lot, there are several bits of evidence that I have not seen much of.
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<BR>My first clue is in the prologue to LoC. Demandred reports that Graendal claims that Moggy "failed to meet her as they agreed." Yet we never see them meet or even dicuss meeting. When Moggy visits Graendal in PoD, no mention of meetings or missed meetings is ever discussed.
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<BR>One question is why did Graendal even report that Moggy missed a meeting? Reporting that Moggy missed a meeting only informs the other Forsaken that they were meeting and perhaps plotting against them. The only other purpose that I can think of to report this is to warn the others that Moggy might be dead. And yet, one missed meeting should not raise an alarm. Moggy was known for hiding in the shadows. When Sammaels talks to Graendal in PoD, he is sure that Moggy is up to her old tricks of hiding.
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<BR>Could it be that Graendal knows more than what she told? Is is possible that she knows that Moggy was captured and wants to warn the others, but also wants to avoid questions about how she knows? How would she know that Moggy was captured and how does this all tie in to Asmodean's death?
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<BR>Here is the theory. Graendal is in T'A'R with Rahvin when Rand toasts him. Perhaps she arrives to late to help or perhaps she is just watching. She sees Nyn heal Rand's wounds and then listens as Nyn tells Moggy that she will see her in Salidar. Graendal then stays in Caemlyn to loot Rahvin's stash and is discovered by Asmodean. Not knowing about Asmodean's shield, and being one of the stronger female Forsaken, she kills him quickly and hides the body to keep anyone from knowing that she was there. She then reports these details to the DO.
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<BR>It is true that there is no proof that she was there or that she stayed in Caemlyn to loot, despite the fact that she looted Illian when Sammael died. However, there are several things that can be explained by this theory.
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<BR>1. How the DO knew so much about the details of Rahvin's and Asmo's deaths. Demandred was surprised at his knowledge and the details that the DO knew.
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<BR>2. Halima knew that Moggy was in Salidar with a Ter'angreal around her neck. Moggy was disguised well enough to fool all the Aes Sedai, but Halima went right up to her and knew who she was.
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<BR>3. Graendal is sure that Moggy is dead. When she steps out of the Gateway with Cyndane, Graendal is surprised because Moggy is the very last person she expected to see. She knows that Aes Sedai would kill a captured Forsaken, and if they don't, the Dark One has a way of killing his followers for letting themselves be captured.
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<BR>While there are other theories about who killed Asmo, this is the only one that has so many other clues that support it. While Lanfear had the best motive, she has a problem with being dead or captured at the time. It could only have been Graendal that killed him.
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<BR>Knarfling
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<BR>My first clue is in the prologue to LoC. Demandred reports that Graendal claims that Moggy "failed to meet her as they agreed." Yet we never see them meet or even dicuss meeting. When Moggy visits Graendal in PoD, no mention of meetings or missed meetings is ever discussed.
<BR>
<BR>One question is why did Graendal even report that Moggy missed a meeting? Reporting that Moggy missed a meeting only informs the other Forsaken that they were meeting and perhaps plotting against them. The only other purpose that I can think of to report this is to warn the others that Moggy might be dead. And yet, one missed meeting should not raise an alarm. Moggy was known for hiding in the shadows. When Sammaels talks to Graendal in PoD, he is sure that Moggy is up to her old tricks of hiding.
<BR>
<BR>Could it be that Graendal knows more than what she told? Is is possible that she knows that Moggy was captured and wants to warn the others, but also wants to avoid questions about how she knows? How would she know that Moggy was captured and how does this all tie in to Asmodean's death?
<BR>
<BR>Here is the theory. Graendal is in T'A'R with Rahvin when Rand toasts him. Perhaps she arrives to late to help or perhaps she is just watching. She sees Nyn heal Rand's wounds and then listens as Nyn tells Moggy that she will see her in Salidar. Graendal then stays in Caemlyn to loot Rahvin's stash and is discovered by Asmodean. Not knowing about Asmodean's shield, and being one of the stronger female Forsaken, she kills him quickly and hides the body to keep anyone from knowing that she was there. She then reports these details to the DO.
<BR>
<BR>It is true that there is no proof that she was there or that she stayed in Caemlyn to loot, despite the fact that she looted Illian when Sammael died. However, there are several things that can be explained by this theory.
<BR>
<BR>1. How the DO knew so much about the details of Rahvin's and Asmo's deaths. Demandred was surprised at his knowledge and the details that the DO knew.
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<BR>2. Halima knew that Moggy was in Salidar with a Ter'angreal around her neck. Moggy was disguised well enough to fool all the Aes Sedai, but Halima went right up to her and knew who she was.
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<BR>3. Graendal is sure that Moggy is dead. When she steps out of the Gateway with Cyndane, Graendal is surprised because Moggy is the very last person she expected to see. She knows that Aes Sedai would kill a captured Forsaken, and if they don't, the Dark One has a way of killing his followers for letting themselves be captured.
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<BR>While there are other theories about who killed Asmo, this is the only one that has so many other clues that support it. While Lanfear had the best motive, she has a problem with being dead or captured at the time. It could only have been Graendal that killed him.
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<BR>Knarfling