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Alys
14th February 2002, 00:53
Sorry, I'm in a bit of a silly mood after reading the Moiraine/Monty Python thread. Oh! I just figured out what happened to Moiraine! She was captured by the 'Finn (Headed up by Min of course) and forced to write bad comedy featuring coconuts and rabid rabbits! It all makes perfect sense since the only food they have in Finnland is probably coconuts because exotic places always have them, and when you're stranded there always seems to be a tree or two of them lolling about. And the part about rabbits makes sense because she's small and would want something else really quite tiny to be nasty and awe inspiring as well!

*picturing Moiraine wearing a little writer's fedora with a stub of a lit cigg hanging out the corner of her mouth, steadfastly typing away her little stories.*

"Blast it.. another act to go and I ran out of ideas. Ah well, I'll just write a bit about some shrubbery. These bestial fox men wouldn't know comedy if it bit them on their a--.. foxes... Grey Fox.. Oh Thom! Be still my heart, if you only knew of my lust for those colored balls you ju--.. um, *coughcough* Back to shrubbery."

~~typetypetype~~

-------yikes.. well, that one ran away with me. Anyway, my real theory was something I posted on wotism.org a long time ago, before Nato left.

Do you think that the taint on saidin is actually the Dark One's power in itself, having leaked through with the connection of the seals? And once the seals are broken, perhaps the taint would be erased from saidin?

-Alys.

Aragorn
14th February 2002, 01:20
Apparently you haven't read Winter's Heart...

Buckweet
14th February 2002, 02:02
:rolleyes: omg

Alys
14th February 2002, 11:49
Well, I feel pretty idiotic. Especially since I did read Winter's Heart. But, with all of my goofiness, I didn't really explain what I meant with my dumb little non-theory. Please excuse me for being a total incompetant.

I was wondering if what was done with the taint was only temporary, and that the permanent solution was to break the seals themselves because the patch was in one way holding the DO from the Pattern, but also keeping him somewhat connected. Yes of course, you'd have to fight the DO. But, after the last battle, with the seals gone, it might be entirely cleansed. Or is that just moronic also?

Theoban
20th February 2002, 21:30
The taint is connected to the DO, but the seals are not, as they are entirely man made. If the taint could be got rid of by breaking the seals, then it would have got less as the seals got weaker.

Buckweet
20th February 2002, 22:07
what bothers me is, cant the DO decide to taint it again when the seal opens up right before Tarmon Gaidan?

archely
25th February 2002, 23:18
Originally posted by Buckweet
what bothers me is, cant the DO decide to taint it again when the seal opens up right before Tarmon Gaidan?

I don't know about this, and I don't think anyone else besides RJ really knows either. Unless of course I'm missing the completely obvious here.

Anyway, the taint is described as being a few different things. A last counterstroke of the DO is only one of the options. The other one I remember being that it was a backblast from what LTT and the hundred companions did. If it was merely a backblast, then it was pretty much an accident and the DO didn't do it on purpose at all. I think that this explanation makes more sense anyway, how could the DO perform a counterstroke if he was just bound up by LTT and his cronies?

Also, recall that this series is "THE WHEEL OF TIME" This means that someone has to patch up the bore all nice and neat before the AoL can come around again, so that they can re-break into it.

Buckweet
26th February 2002, 01:03
Originally posted by archely

Also, recall that this series is "THE WHEEL OF TIME" This means that someone has to patch up the bore all nice and neat before the AoL can come around again, so that they can re-break into it.


Yea but there bore cant be just patched up, it has to be gone, no bore... no whole no nothing just smooth pattern or what have you.

But who is to say what havoc the DO will cause when he goes down. What Im trying to get at t the next age might not come the day after the last battle. Their can be all kinds of nasty stuff that only RJ can dream up that may take another age or two before they fix the "damage"...including retainting the power or something rob worse.

Remember that there is no fixed time in an age, and long time has to pass so histroy becomes myth and myth becomes legend, until evryone forgets about the DO, and thats when the ydiscover him again...

am I making sense?
Buckweet

archely
26th February 2002, 10:20
Originally posted by Buckweet
Yea but there bore cant be just patched up, it has to be gone, no bore... no whole no nothing just smooth pattern or what have you.

Well, this is what I meant by saying "all nice and neat." Anyway, I'm not sure that it can be. Doesn't someone, when talking WoT theory in the books, say that they think it was patched perfectly by the creator at the moment of creation, but since people could never do it as perfectly as that, since it was first bored into it has always been a somewhat faulty patch? And I'm not talking about the seven seals here, but the patch bored into by Mierin and that Beidomon guy.

Buckweet
27th February 2002, 19:45
well who says the creator cant pop in for a bit, or better yet,... Bela can stand up on her hind legs and tell all to kneel to te creator:D

Hey, if Im corect I believe that the creator did talk t orAnd in book 1???? when he/she wahtever said... "no not yet"... or this sinthe place..or I dont know.. I wish I had my books

NOuseFORaNAME
16th October 2002, 16:58
Maybe......what happens is after the DO is beaten, the Creator takes and puts him in a new prison, thus allowing for his new clean tidy prison to be drilled into later on. Considering the DO is eternal and all that.

Travis
16th October 2002, 19:15
Originally posted by archely
Anyway, I'm not sure that it can be. Doesn't someone, when talking WoT theory in the books, say that they think it was patched perfectly by the creator at the moment of creation, but since people could never do it as perfectly as that, since it was first bored into it has always been a somewhat faulty patch? And I'm not talking about the seven seals here, but the patch bored into by Mierin and that Beidomon guy.

Yer, thats prolly why they could sense somethin there, u know how around the bore was a "thinness" or something in the pattern, it was prolly thin cuz its been broken into heaps of times already.........or something.

epiph
17th October 2002, 17:53
but then how did it get bored into originally??