Why Moiraine will come back soon!

[Elayne Sedai]

O.K. I don't know If anyone has posted anything about this before so I'm just gonna say it.
I think that in the next book(by the way, does anyone know what the book will be called?) Moiraine will come back!
We all know about Egwene's dream of Thom pulling Moiraine's blue stone out of a fire, that to me and most other people would say that Thom is going to save her from some sorta peril. We can guess that the peril has something to do with the Finn's.
We all know the rules of the Finn's(courage to strengthen,fire to blind, music to daze, and iron to bind) The best way to defeat them would be to break the rules. All of our hero's have courage of course, else they wouldn't be where they are at today, so we have that part down. Next we need the fire to blind, and lo and behold, who just happens to wander back into the story, but Aludra. The women who has invented matches. Thom of course can take care of the music part, and someone has to have some iron around somewhere. So we have all the key factors down, covering their rules. Now you are asking well thats great, but how are they going to get to the Finn Land?
If you remember Perrin knows how to get to the Finn Land:The tower of Ghenjei, and can have the Asha'man make a couple of gateways to get there. Of course we need Thom and Aludra, to be there though.
When we last saw Thom, he was heading north out of Ebou Dar with Aludra, anticipating Mat's eventual arrival. (Note: Thom is probably with Valan Luca's Menagerie) They can't go northwest(Amadicai) because, they would run into Seachan, and they can't go east to Illian, so they can only go north/northeast, Which would put them in line directly with Perrin and crew, who are desperatly chasing the Shaido Southeast through Ghealdan.
This would just be a perfect time for them to meet up and have some reason they need to go to Ghenjei, which would in turn lead them to Moiraine. Also note that there are several times when RJ mentains Oliver being interested in the game Snakes and Foxes. Which is another name for The land of the Finns. He might also be able to help our heroes.
I would just love to see this be a reason for The characters to get back together.(maybe Rand will come, though I do doubt it.) But It to me at least makes sense. Thom for what ever reason though, has to be the one to directly get Moiraine out.
Well thats all I gotta say for now(lol, likes thats not already to much!) Post and tell me what you think, And correct where I'm wrong.

[Theoban]

I think that you're probably right, although I don't know if they would use Travelling to get into the Tower of Ghenjei. There's probably a door in it that you can only open by singing or something, I mean, why build something that's a portal with no way in?

[Elayne Sedai]

WELL THANKS GUYS! I'M OVERWELMED BY ALL YOUR POST'S.












The least you could do is say hi.~sniff~ Now my feelings are hurt, and I may never recover.



Ok, I think i'm over it. Come on people I don't bite.... er...hard.

[Aragorn]

Sorry, but your post was way too long, and I have ADD. I would've read it but ~gasp!~ THAT DOG HAS A POOFY TAIL!!!

Hehehe, c'mere Poof!

[Theoban]

Hey! I posted! Don't I count?

[Elayne Sedai]

Sorry all, I was just haveing a moment. I was bored the other day so.....anyway Thank you Theoban, for posting. I should have said something before.

You all can post what ever you want considering, that know one will read the thing. (how sad):( :) oh well.

[Urbal T]

Olver -- courage
Aludra -- fire
Thom -- music
???(perhaps Mat) -- iron

Perhaps it won't be that Thom directly gets her out, more that he comes up with the idea. Also, Mat always refers to the 'finns as being <b>snake</b>-like, and he has a <b>fox</b>-head medallion, right? Maybe that has something to do with it?

--Ted

[Elayne Sedai]

I also think that Rand sometime soon is gonna get put in the Male A'dam. And Mat's gonna be there, when it happens. He however wouldn't know that Rand was gonna be put in it.

[Urbal T]

But who's gonna control the a'dam? Who is needed to control it? Why isn't Alf on network TV anymore?

All this and more on the next episode of --insert TV show name, slightly respelled, pronounced the same--

I'm really on a roll for bad jokes tonight.

--Ted

[Elayne Sedai]

LOL Urbal T! I don't know who will use it, just that it has to happen some time soon. Someone who is close to the DotNM'S?

[Urbal T]

Agh... the original purpose of that post was to ask where your avatar came from, Elayne.

Anyway, doesn't it need two women to use? And doesn't it make the woman/women go insane and partiallly get controlled too? Hey wait a minute, does this mean that guys actually have an <i>advantage</i> for once? And didn't it get tossed into the ocean? Are we talking about the same a'dam? I think that it's gonna be a slight parallel (say maybe slope = 2 compared with slope = 2.2) with the One Ring -- Gandalf mentions that not even throwing it into the ocean would keep it from being found, et cetera.

So now, before I forget: Where did you get your avatar, Elayne?

Oh, and I'm going to finish this one off with a quote: "He built a castle, and that sank into the swamp. So he built another, and that sank into the swamp. He built a third one, and that fell over, burned down, and then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up!"

--Ted

[Buckweet]

Originally posted by Urbal T

Oh, and I'm going to finish this one off with a quote: "He built a castle, and that sank into the swamp. So he built another, and that sank into the swamp. He built a third one, and that fell over, burned down, and then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up!"

--Ted


~~~scratches head.... ~~~~~

Babylon 5 ????

[Vivacia]

Monty Python!!!! Holy Grail = Best Movie Ever...Almost.

[Aragorn]

There are some who call me...Tim.

[Theoban]

One day my son, all this will be yours.

What, the curtains?

[Urbal T]

"...and then Sir Galahad, Sir Lancelot, and I leap out of the rabbit taking the castle totally by surprise and completely unarmed!"
"Who jumps out of the rabbit?"
"Sir Gallahad, Sir Lancelot, and... oh dear... Well, suppose we build this giant badger..."

"Dominic vo-bisque 'em and come spear a tu-tu oh,
Won't you eat my sleazy pancakes just for saintly Alfonzo?"

--Ted

[Elayne Sedai]

OK, I don't think I'm gonna be able to figure out how you think Urbal T. Where did all this about bunnys, and castles come from?
I think I'm the only norma.....~little voice in the back of her head speaks~( you are dazed and confuzed.) I am dazed and..hey where..?( you will do as I say, and type what I tell you to type) I will do as you say and..OH NO!....type what... the Alien 4x-z is back! ahhhh!

~runs around screaming for some time~

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[Aragorn]

Help! Help! I'm being repressed!!

[Theoban]

Soup

[Urbal T]

What's the point of thinking in ways others can understand? Under normal circumstances, I would say "Mwa" but I have learned that it has other meanings which I do not wish to convey. So howabout "Gya."

The first quote was from Monty Python's Holy Grail. You should see it if you havn't yet. The second quote was from the Nanook suite by Frank Zappa (listen to all four songs if you wish to discover the meaning).

More for your enjoyment and confusion (the two are not mutually exclusive, as many would believe).

{Alchemist: "What burns besides witches?"
Townspeople: "More witches?" "Wood!"
A: "Exactly! Now, what else can you do with wood?"
T: "Build a bridge out of it!"
A: "Yes, but can you not also build a bridge out of stone? What else does wood do?"
T: "Oh yes..." "It floats!"
A: "Right! Now what also floats?"
T: "Very small rocks?"
King Arthur: "A duck!"
A: "Yes!! So?"
T: "So... if she... weighs as much as a duck... then... she is made of wood..."
A: "And therefor?"
T: "A WITCH!!!"}

"Look, you can't wield <i>supreme executive power</i> just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!" -- Dennis

{"What's that growling, churning feeling in my... my.... Well, if I am going to make any headway in what for the sake of what I shall call an argument I shall call the world I had better start finding names for things, so lets call it my stomach."

"What's that big thing coming towards me very fast? It needs a big sounding name, like... ow... ound... round... ground! That's it, I'll call it the ground!
I wonder if it will be friends with me?"

"And all, after a sudden wet thud, was silence"}

And now for a quote nobody will understand: "You see, we're just using u to find the limit."

[nightfairy]

Very good, but not quite.

A: What do you do with witches?
T:Burn them!Burn them!
A: And what do you burn apart from witches?
T: More witches! ~thinking~ Wood!
A: So. Why do witches burn?
T: ~much pondering, then tentatively...~ ...'cause they're made of... wood?
A: Goood! So. How do we tell whether she is made of wood?
T: Build a bridge out of her!
A: Ah! But can you not also make bridges out of stone? Ah, does wood sink in water?
T: No! No, it floats! Throw her into the water!
A: What also floats in water?
T: Bread! Apples! Very small rocks! Cider! Gravy! Cherries! Mud! Churches! Lead!
King Arthur: A duck!
A: Exactly!So, logically... if... ~prompting townspeople~
T: ...if she... weighs the same as a duck.......she's made of wood!
A: ... and therefore...
T: A witch!!! ~excitedly~ Burn her!!!

[nightfairy]

...and later, in the same movie...

King Arthur & knights approach a castle...
-Go and tell your master, that we have been charged by God with a sacred quest. If he will give us food & shelter for the night, he can join us in our quest for the holy grail!
-Well, I'll ask him, but I dont think he'll be very keen. He's already got one, you see?
-What? - He says they've already got one! - Are you sure he's got one?
-Oh, yes! It's a-very nice-a (~whispers to companions~ I told them we've already got one! ~much giggling~)
-Well, then can we come up & have a look?
-Of course not! You are English types-a
-Well, what are you then?
-I'm French! Why do you think I've got this outrageous accent, you silly king?
-What are you doing in England?
-Mind you'r own business!
-If you will not show us the grail, we will take your castle by force!
-You dont frighten us, English pig-dogs! Go and boil your bottoms, sundry silly person! I blow my nose at you so-called Arthur-king! You and all your silly English Kannnniggets!
-(What a strange person) Now look here, my good man...
-I dont want to talk to you no more, you empty headded animal-food-trough-water! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster & your father smelt of Elderberries!
-Is there somebody else there we could talk to?
-No! Now go away or I will taunt you a second time-a!
-Now this is your last chance! I've been more than reasonable, if you do not agree to my commands...
-mmmMMMMOOOOOOO!
-Jesus Christ! Run!
~cue livestock assault~
-RUN AWAY!!! RUN AWAY!!!:eek:

[Urbal T]

Alright then:

Arthur: Brother Maynard, bring out the holy hand grenade!
Monks: --chanting-- iesu domine dona eis requiem
Arthur: How does it, uh, how does it work?
Launcelot: I konw not, my liege.
Arthur: Consult the book of armaments!
Maynard: Armaments chapter 2, verses 9 to 21
Brother: And Saint Atila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'Oh, Lord, bless this thy hand grenade that with it thou mayest blow thy enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.' And the Lord did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths, and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats, and large --
Maynard: Skip a bit, brother.
Brother: And the Lord spake, saying, 'First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thou foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.'
Maynard: Amen
All: Amen
Arthur: Right. One, two, five!
Galahad: Three sir!
Arthur: three!
--aaaaaaaaah--
--BOOM--

[Buckweet]

I was gonna do the holy handgrenade bit....arghh :D


My favorite is when they ry to cross the bridge... too funny

oh and whe they dicribe the rabbit... "fangs like this"

~~show you fangs ~~



Monty Python...you rule~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Theoban]

I only have one word to say.





























































































Ni

[flyingdutchman]

sorry, no quote

but something for this thread: isn't Perrins hammer made of iron?

wait, wait, i remember one:

"We interrupt this program to annoy you, and to be generally irritating"

-get on with it!-

ok sorry... So in the next book, they will enter the tower, get M out, and a few neat gadgets and knowledge besides! it'll be fun!

[LaughingTurtle]

ARTHUR: You fight with the strength of many men, Sir knight. I am Arthur, King of the Britons. I seek the finest and the bravest knights in the land to join me in my Court of Camelot. You have proved yourself worthy; will you join me?....You make me sad. So be it. Come, Patsy.
BLACK KNIGHT: None shall pass.
ARTHUR: What?
BLACK KNIGHT: None shall pass.
ARTHUR: I have no quarrel with you, good Sir knight, but I must cross this bridge.
BLACK KNIGHT: Then you shall die.
ARTHUR: I command you as King of the Britons to stand aside!
BLACK KNIGHT: I move for no man.
ARTHUR: So be it! [hah] [parry thrust]
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's left arm off - really neat blood spurting effects]
ARTHUR: Now stand aside, worthy adversary.
BLACK KNIGHT: 'Tis but a scratch.
ARTHUR: A scratch? Your arm's off!
BLACK KNIGHT: No, it isn't.
ARTHUR: Well, what's that then?
BLACK KNIGHT: I've had worse.
ARTHUR: You liar!
BLACK KNIGHT: Come on you pansy! [hah] [parry thrust]
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's right arm off - more really neat blood spurting effects]
ARTHUR: Victory is mine! [kneeling] We thank thee Lord, that in thy merc-
[unnh - as the Black Knight kicks him]
BLACK KNIGHT: Come on then.
ARTHUR: What?
BLACK KNIGHT: Have at you!
ARTHUR: You are indeed brave, Sir knight, but the fight is mine.
BLACK KNIGHT: Oh, had enough, eh?
ARTHUR: Look, you stupid bastard, you've got no arms left.
BLACK KNIGHT: Yes I have.
ARTHUR: Look!
BLACK KNIGHT: Just a flesh wound. [bang]
ARTHUR: Look, stop that.
BLACK KNIGHT: Chicken! Chicken!
ARTHUR: Look, I'll have your leg. Right! [whop]
BLACK KNIGHT: Right, I'll do you for that!
ARTHUR: You'll what?
BLACK KNIGHT: Come 'ere!
ARTHUR: What are you going to do, bleed on me?
BLACK KNIGHT: I'm invincible!
ARTHUR: You're a loony.
BLACK KNIGHT: The Black Knight always triumphs! Have at you! Come on then. [whop]
[ARTHUR chops the BLACK KNIGHT's other leg off]
BLACK KNIGHT: All right; we'll call it a draw.
ARTHUR: Come, Patsy.
BLACK KNIGHT: Oh, oh, I see, running away then. You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!

[Mithrandir]

hahaha you son of a silly person :p :D

[Buckweet]

how about:

1: Where, behind the rabbit?
2: It IS the rabbit.

or


Dead Body Collecter: BRING OUT YOUR DEAD *CLANK*
Live Guy: Alrighty here you go
Dead Guy: I'm not quite dead yet
DBC:What?
LG: Oh nothing heres your 9 pense
DG I'm not dead
DBC: He says he's not dead yet
LG: He is
DG I'm not
DBC: he says he's not
LG: Ah he will be he's very ill
DG: I'm getting better
LG: Oh be quiet you'll be stone dead in a moment
DBC: I can't take him like that it's against regulations
DG: I don't want to go on the cart
LG: DOn't be such a baby
DBC: I can't take him
DG: I feel fine
LG: Oh do us a favor
DBC: I can't
LG: well can you hang around a bit he won't be long
DBC: I fighting with the Robinson I've already lost nine today.
LG: Well when's your next round?
DBC: Thursday
DG: I think I'll go for a walk
LG: Your not fooling any one you know.isn't there something you can do?
DG: I feel happy oh so *THUD*

[Judas]

wow, so is this a monty pithon thread now? i don't want to go on the cart? have yall seen monty python and the life of brian? that was a good one.....um yeah, anyway, yeah, i like fish

[flyingdutchman]

romani ite domum

hilarious! best space combat scene ever!

[Elladan]

Ya I like this theory. But actually almost any theory with Thom and Moiraine could work. Its funny so few people think she wont come back. It would be a twist, with everyone thinking she's come back and then it never happens. I for one though do think she will come back, I mean, who cuts out a main character that early in the story? It DOESNT HAPPEN!

[fizban]

refer to this site for all theory related discussions, odds are that it has been said already. (http://www.theoryland.com)

[WhiteMage]

Hrm, i like the theory, well done! But i really dont care about Moraine for some reason. Oh well, call me heartless!

[fizban]

she was prissy. 'nuff said

[Dregs]

You know there's an old saying:

If your signature is bigger than your post, you piss Dregs off.

[Adonis]

I piss Dregs off. :-/

[Sonic]

Yo tambien ^_^

[fizban]

damn spanish, i had to endure 2 hours straight of that today :(

[Sonic]

awww... que lastima.... No cuido!!! :D

[fizban]

*runs away screaming*

[Aviendha2]

The next book is called Knife of Dreams, and I think you're right. Moiraine will come back, if not alive, then as a specter.

[Mazrim_Taim]

I don't think Moirane will come back. I mean come on, if anyone would survive in a battle between her and Lanfear, it would be Lanfear. Even if the forsaken was thrown off. And I hate how RJ just can't seem to kill off major characters! It sucks! He kills a scant few, and THEN he ressurects them! It is unbearable. I have spoken my piece/peace.

[4th Dimension]

Pa bez nje (ugghhh wrong language) Well withouth her it isn't fun.

[jenpen]

Does anyone think that moraine and thom have a love interest ? Or maybe a past love interest ? I just finished reading TLOC for the third time so I don't remember much from the books that follow. But I know that she left both him and Rand a letter right before she and Lanfear disappeared. What do you all think?

[4th Dimension]

Well a lot of theories include that there will be something between Thom and Moraine. That's because it's pretty probable that Thom willl asompany Mat in finn land and it will be a sort rescuer romance.
Bah everythimg about this you can find here:http://www.darkfriends.net/wheel/2_nondark/2.5_lurv/2.5.3_thom-moir.html
http://www.darkfriends.net/wheel/2_nondark/2.2_rest-chars/2.2.6_moir-no-dead.html

[Shawn1141]

I didn't read this whole tread so this might have been said but, in book 7 min is talking about the viewings she kept back from rand and says to herself "what good it would do to tell him that he would almost certainly fail without a woman who was dead and gone"

[4th Dimension]

Yes thats one of biggest profs that Moraine must come back in some way to fulfill those things that Min saw (we do not know what but I think she also said that Rand would not sucsed without a woman who is dead and gone).