Tar'angreal

[freak2tc]

has any one ever considered that there might be a Tar'angreal that makes it posible for two men to link without a woman AS?
then they could have linked when they sealed the DO's prison.

[Jacob]

Weeeelll....noone (appart from RJ) can really say what is possible or not, but I don't think that that can be done. Maybe using the True Power...but that wouldn't be much use in sealing the bore :O

The "regular" a'dam makes it possible for two women to link, of course...but the can already do that without the a'dam.

[GWINNA]

I think RJ stated that they weren't linked when they did it.

[TimGoldenboots]

All I know of this is what was written in The Strike at Shayol Ghul. No mention of the men trying to link though... it just says that they worked together...

http://www.tor.com/shayol.html

[val7]

Originally posted by G.W.I.N.N.A
I think RJ stated that they weren't linked when they did it.
It is a type of linking making one in absolute control. The sul'dam doesn't add her strength to the damane, but they are linked somehow. (the sul'dam can feel the damane's emotions and stuff)

[Illustrious]

Even so, the damane is unable to sift through the emotions and sentiments of the sul'dam. Thus so, it's certainly not the conventional Aes Sedai link, yet a relation between to the two might exist.

[balefire]

I think it's impossible for men to link without women, ter'angreal or not. Linking always involves women, & I don't see how that rule can be broken (short of RJ the Rulemaker saying so). Of course one can argue that linking is normally voluntary but the a'dam broke that rule. However we know that a circle which is large enough can force another woman into it even against her will. So the a'dam actually bent rather than broke the rules of linking. Men cannot be forced into a circle & cannot link without women, & even the male a'dam only broke the "voluntary" rule, it still has to involve women, & it only partially bent the rule of men leading the circle.

[Warder Trained]

I still stand by the two cents I put in the "hunderd companions" thread that was current a few days ago.

Sealing the Bore was most likely done by Lews Therin on his lonesome.

[TimGoldenboots]

I know that they would have a hard time finding volenteers to test such a device... Considering what happens to a man who tries to use an a'dam. lol

Graendal also makes a coment that a'dam, which she refers to as forced linking was unheard of in the Age of Legends. So it stands to reason that any similar device would fall into that catagory. Even Asmodean says that linking "Requires" a female. He never made an exception to that rule, even with all of the ter'angreal lieing around Rhuidean...

[Reuvyn]

I think the hundred companions were composed of both men and women. (somewhere in one of the glossaries) So if they linked they could have used women

[GWINNA]

Originally posted by reuvyn
I think the hundred companions were composed of both men and women. (somewhere in one of the glossaries) So if they linked they could have used women
Sorry, but no, the hundred champions were absolutly all men, no exceptions. Completely men, no women, women refused to participate in Therin's plan, they signed an accord on it.

[HotW-Moiraine]

Since this thread is caleld ter angreal and on the side note that i dont wana start any more threads let me ask this question

Any chance the Cheoden Kal statues are LTT and Illyena?

[Alderon]

Who knows, they could be anyone and they can be no one. I Myself don't think they are LTT Ilyena.

[DavidG]

I think the hundred companions were composed of both men and women. (somewhere in one of the glossaries) So if they linked they could have used womenIf there'd been men and women there, saidar would probably have been tainted too.

[Amberly]

hehe check the date before you reply to posts... 3 years is a little late to make that reply david

All the others with the new statements that has nothing to do with the old posts.. MORE POWER TO YA!!!!

[DavidG]

hehe check the date before you reply to posts... 3 years is a little late to make that reply davidYeah, I usually only look at the date of the most recent post so that I don't revive topics.

Anyway, back onto the new topic...

Any chance the Cheoden Kal statues are LTT and Illyena?Are they those two massive statue sa'angreals? (Don't recall ever seeing them named... I probably haven't got that far yet.) If so, I doubt it... I think I read somewhere that Lews didn't think they'd be ready in time to seal the Bore, so it seems unlikely.

[BassDude726]

About men linking and the subject of a'dam... if women created the Seanchan a'dam, then what about the a'dam that controls a man from the panarch's palace in Tanchico? Is it possible that a man could use that to link another man?

[4th Dimension]

Chodan Kal was Lutra Pose Slicer of the Shadows plan, and ahe was opposing LTT's plan so it is highly doubitable LTT is represented on them.

Wery unlikely. You remember that man can not use the normal a'dam because it is made so that the master would be the woman. Sad bracelets were made so that master will also be the woman.

[Alderon]

Why would he want hes face on something he didn't like in the first place, remember how he went mad when he found out Rand was gonna use them.

[4th Dimension]

Who are you talking about?

[HotW-Moiraine]

Lews therin and the fact of whether he is the guy on the Cheoden kal


Oh and by the way i had RJ answer one of my questions hmm let me find it...



Question:
In the chapter Unweaving (TPOD), Elayne searches the stuff brought out of the Rahad for anything that might be an angreal or ter'angreal. One of the items she finds with a 'resonance' to the Power is:

'The figure of a stout, bearded man with a jolly smile, holding a book.'

Could this be a sneaky cameo of the author himself, and if so, what exactly would a RJ ter'angreal do? Give straight answers to RAFO questions, or perhaps help the user write their *own* long-running fantasy series.

Maybe it's even the maguffin which will prove crucial to winning the last battle.






Answer: For HotW-Moiraine, yes, the bearded man ter'angreal could be said to be my Alfred Hitchcock moment. In KoD, you'll learn what it does.




(its just another ter'angreal thing)

[Alderon]

Yes I was talking about Ltt.

HotW that question was on TORs question of the week if I'm not mistakin', didn't know you were the one to ask it, for a moment I sat here and tought about how you didn't ask a question about Moiraine, then I figured out that you of all persons would be the one to know everything there is to know about her so the question about here would be a waste of time because you would already know the answer, right?

[HotW-Moiraine]

I asked the question on RJ's BLog

[4th Dimension]

Yup she asked and he sesponded. See it here http://www.dragonmount.com/RobertJordan/ use Ctrl+F to find HotW-Moiraine.

I was about to ask if it was her.