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Ba'alzamon
12th March 2002, 20:37
I am currently reading through WOT for the second time, and am on book 6 at the moment, and a funny thought struck me. When Mat delivers Moiraines letter to Thom (via Rand) He asks thom if it was from a woman he rescued, or a woman he left behind to have her head cut off. Thom replies very meekly that he left her, then walks away without another word. I was wondering if maybe moiraine and thom had some kind relationship, whether it be romantic or not, that we are not told of. Because as far as RJ describes it, Tho doesn't especialy care alot for aes seadi after what happened with his nephew. I find it very interesting, and defintely a good connection to the possibility of him rescuing Moiraine from the finns. What does everybody else think?

Aragorn
12th March 2002, 22:49
Yes.

Kiri
13th March 2002, 05:00
Aragon's vocab is "this big"! Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha....

A man of little words, but big thoughts?

Mithrandir
13th March 2002, 05:30
I think it is more the respect (aight) from Thom towards Moiraine. Cause he knows what she has done for him and how hard that is. We see mostly the world through the young eyes and Thom has seen the world in different ways so he sees the danger more clearly and sees what Moiraine has done.

Indigo Montoya
13th March 2002, 11:20
I think that it is guilt that Thom is feeling. Guilt that he did not do enough to help Moiraine and even tried to deliberaitly block her plans with Rand , Matt and Perrin because he did not TRUST her motives until after she sacrificed her life to save Rand(or thinks she sacrificed her life.) The letter was prob. icing on the cake, maybe even the names of the Sitters that Gentelled his nephew.
AM I MAKING SENSE?

What I mean is it is Guilt and the relization that he lost any ally and not an enemy with Moiraines "DEATH" and not a love affair.
And this is what will drive him to save Moiraine when the time comes.

Cypher
13th March 2002, 12:32
off topic, but indigo, ur signature says you are INIGO MONTOYA

thought u might want to correct this before everyone starts making fun of you.


**sits here and makes fun of inigo montoya**

Indigo Montoya
13th March 2002, 13:04
I know , Aragorn pointed out on my first post that I had the incorrect name of "Indigo Montoya" from The Princes Bride so I fixed the Quote and kept the Incorrect name for all to make fun of me and my simple ways.

**sits and laughs w/Cypher not realizing Cypher is laughing at him not with him**


** asks self why is it always someone from Texas(Cypher+Aragorn) that points these thing out? must be a meaning in there somewhere.**

Indigo Montoya
13th March 2002, 13:10
Thanks for the heads up

Aragorn
14th March 2002, 01:21
It must be in the water. And we're pretty nitpicky down here.

Abraxas77
18th March 2002, 22:02
Yes, some may call Texans "nit-piky," but I am just a perfectionist.

**back to the subject**

I believe Thom most definately senses a feeling of love towards Moraine. I believe around the same time he recieves the letter from Mat, he chastizes himself for loving dangerous women. Wouldn't you say that Moraine falls into that category. It also may be another reason for him to not only join, but ask Moraine to remain in Rands party. He just is unwilling to admit his undying love for her. Also, don't forget Min's viewing of the pair (where he is to save her).

astraea
14th May 2002, 07:07
Well, I like the theory of a romance OF SORTS between Moiraine and Thom. Firstly, Thom received the letter from Moiraine, and the only other to get one was Rand... so she was obviously thinking of him. As mentioned, his reactions when her name is mentioned after her disappearance seem to hint at deep feelings.
Moiraine also knows who she will marry (?!?). In tDR (don't have page numbers, sorry) she says to Elayne and Egwene (sitting around a campfire or something, if I remember right) "I could wager I know the face of the man I will marry better than either of you knows the face of your future husband". That doesn't point to Thom, or anyone really, but given that RJ advances these things books before anything eventuates...
Also, given the Arthurian themes and name similarities (as in Moiraine instead of Morgaine or Morgan le Fey and Thom Merillin instead of the Merlin), these characters are tied together with an emotional bond, if not neccessarily one they act upon.