RandVsDO

[Navaho]

When the moment comes and Rand finally confronts the Dark Lord himself ( in book 23;) ) Why not just balefire him into oblivion, easy and painfree (if you disregard the millions of reprecussions it will have;) )

[Beowulf]

um, disregarding the repercussions... well why not just let the dark one break free and disregard those repercussions instead... probably would be less damaging to the Wheel if it were subverted rather than entirely blown to hell.

haha :rolleyes:

[MikeRules311]

Man, I'm glad Navaho isn't the Dragon!

[Larkin]

I don't know, but.....

Everyone throughout the series has said No Balefire, No, Never!!!

It's obviously something that hasn't been tried before, and besides, what do you want more than the thing your told you cannot have, especially when you told over and over and over and over again.

Hey, what if Rand doesn't get the job done, he lets everyone down, alot of people say 'I told you he was a false dragon', everone else sits there sratching the back of their neck wondering what they were thinking, the DO goes HA HA HA I'VE WON AT LAST!!!! (in all capital letters mind you) and Nnve's daughter from the testing terngrl, who just happens to be a whole lot older than her mother for some reason, balefires the DO with an itsy bitsy tiny winy yellow pockadot (really small) stream of power, and....

Low and behold, the Last Battle's undone, and sa lavie.

[magatsu17]

I don't think the Dark One can be Balefired anyway, Balefire burns a person's thread out of the patern, but the Dark One exist outside the patern. He's been sealed away from it. But even when the seals break, I don't see how balefire can hurt him at all. Rand's gonna have to come up with another and better way to seal him off

[Beowulf]

not true not true.

by entering the wheel he becomes vulnerable to the workings of the wheel, which is what rand and the entire of humanity is.

Balefire could destroy the influence the Dark One had on the wheel but would be really dangerous... yeah, indeed... um, so that's just my logic to support an RJ quote where he said that balefiring the Dark One would destroy the Wheel. so, hmm... : \

I wish this board had a graphic smiley that made a resigned face like that. : \

[Tinkers Sword]

You can never destroy the DO just like the Creator can never be detroyed. To do so would unravel reality, they are the balancing forces of the universe.
I see it like this, the creator keeps creating more and more - expanding the universe so much so that at some point his work and energy is stretched so thin that life would cease that is why the DO ( the essence of choas) is required to balance things he could destroy the universe, ie the universe would implode in on itself and hence the "Big Bang" can occur again and the Creator start his cycle again.
Of course this will mean that the DO will escape his prison at some stage which only makes sense since RJ said the DO and the Creator are equals.

[Beowulf]

I think the Wheel and the Pattern is like an inverted space where everything that exists... exists.

The Dark One and Creator both exist outside it. Neither are supposed to interfere. The Creator designed it this way by choice, but the Bore was drilled and the Dark One saw it as his entry point and began to influence events.

But the Creator has no need to intervene because his perfect machine made of imperfect parts will see fit to absolve itself of the deific interloper.

The Dark One needs to extend his influence over the wheel so he can work more strongly to manipulate events to his will. I think that inside the pattern you become subject to the machinations and the will of the Wheel. But the Wheel is also being subverted in a similar manner at the same time.



*mumbles about not sleeping all night and over-taxing brain*

blargle... later folks. :confused: