series you would not recommend [Archive]

Berk

13th November 2001, 00:25

I may get lynched for this but I hate Harry Potter and The Lord of the Rings.

Tolkien was revolutionary and original, but neither of those count much for me. I look solely and structure and content and I find Tolkien deficient in all catergories that I find important, including but not limited to realism and character development and interplay.

Personally, I consider Tolkien on the same level as David Eddings.

jade

13th November 2001, 00:28

you dont like harry potter?... why for?

Berk

13th November 2001, 08:21

As much as I see Potter being a series attractive for children, I do not understand why adults enjoy it.

It does have character development and polt structure, I admit. However, the events that occur and the dialogue that exists just do not seem real to me. Yes, I know the series is fantasy, but when I talk about realism, I talk about the concept that in this Universe with these laws of physics and magic,people still must act with human nature, and the things people do just would not happen.

Aragorn

13th November 2001, 09:39

Pretty much anything by Tad Williams. I trudged my way through the first half of the first book of Otherland before I through it across the room in rage and boredom, and ran to find something better. Then I tried the Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn series. Same damn slow progress in the first book.

Is this constant with him?

Elin

13th November 2001, 09:42

Well, Terry Brooks' "Shannara" series, I guess.

LaughingTurtle

13th November 2001, 15:26

David Drake's "Lord of the Isles" series. The only good character in the whole series is Carus, and he's a dead king who only lives inside of the main characters head.....(well except for the newest book where he takes complete possession of the body, but that was only for that one book, he had to give up the body in the end...Damn!)

All the other characters were totally sterotypical, cut & dry, and very boring. (not that carus wasn't the "macho kill first, ask questions later kind of guy" but hey, i like those kind of characters some times) -- to many "weak, thinking, and unpopular" heroes today, we need to get back to those muscle bound dudes, full of anger/power (Rand fits the bill as being full of power, and anger). I also have enjoyed going back to RJ's conan books, now conan was the MAN!! He gets the women, gold, and also gets to swing around a HUGE sword!! :D Though that's getting off topic and should be in the recommended novels thread, but owell...

ELLLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIINNNN!!! why don't you like Shannara?? :confused:

QuirkyTemplate

13th November 2001, 21:07

Probably The Chronicicles of Amber.

What a crappy buncha books. First person and everything. No realistic character interaction, no character development, plot was developed by a 4 yr old ....

I trudged my way through the first half of the first book of Otherland before I through it across the room in rage and boredom, and ran to find something better

And I'll say that the Otherlands is boring up until the halfway point in book one. You were almost there man! Give it a chance!

magatsu17

13th November 2001, 21:40

You don't like Amber!!!!

Man what am I gonna do with yall??

and way I didn't like JV Jones A book of Word's Series

It had a pretty good story, good plot development, good character Development and I was with the story the whole way till the end. May be the wheel of time spoiled me, but it had absolutly the worse ending of any series. I felt like I had read all that for nothing. It made me mad and I've never pick up one of her books since.

Elin

14th November 2001, 10:59

ELLLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIINNNN!!! why don't you like Shannara??

Well... I thought at least "Sword of Shannara" was a crappy book. First I simply think the writing is bad, and second, it's such an obvious Tolkien clone. I didn't read the others in the series... maybe one other, I don't quite remember. Anyway, I simply didn't enjoy it.

Though considering you seem to want your heroes with no brain and lots of muscle, maybe we simply don't have the same taste in books. ;)

*shrug*
"Smaken är som baken", as we say in Swedish. (And feel free to plug that into a translator, I'd be interested to see how it was translated!) :)

LaughingTurtle

14th November 2001, 15:14

you seem to want your heroes with no brain and lots of muscle

I'm sorry my lady, but you seem to have misunderstood me. Though yes, i do appreciate a good muscle bound hero once and a while, i tend to like the thinking heros a lot. It's just that lately i have read too many books with "thinking" heros in them, and i needed a change of pace.

Book 1 of Shannara was probably my favorite of the series, but i read it around 5 years ago, which probably accounts for why i liked it so much. i bet if i read it now, i might feel differently...though i don't know, unless i go read it again now. Though recently (last month or so) i just finished reading book 2, Antrax, of his new series and i enjoyed greatly.

"There's no accounting for taste."

Jo, varhelst.

QuirkyTemplate

15th November 2001, 18:35

Then you got the Wheel of Time.

Boy did that suck!

lol!

Elin

16th November 2001, 10:47

I'm sorry my lady, but you seem to have misunderstood me. Though yes, i do appreciate a good muscle bound hero once and a while, i tend to like the thinking heros a lot. It's just that lately i have read too many books with "thinking" heros in them, and i needed a change of pace.

Hey, I was just kidding... you saw the smiley, right? ;)

LaughingTurtle

16th November 2001, 15:24

whoops! Actually no. :o

Det var min skuld.

I'm beginning to like these language translators...they're fun!

Elin

17th November 2001, 06:21

Oh no, why did I start that... there'll be no privacy for Swedish people anymore...
*grumbles*

sven

28th May 2002, 12:25

how can you people be bad mouthing the shannara books i cant wait for the next jerle shannara

Arawis

28th May 2002, 18:24

Originally posted by sven
how can you people be bad mouthing the shannara books i cant wait for the next jerle shannara

i know right! me too

and elin, the first book took like 100-150 pages for me to get into it. then the rest was good. my friends boyfriend got her the book and she couldnt finish it cuz it was so boring at the beginning. but then i told it takes time to get into so she finished it and loved it

i like harry potter :blush:

i would not recommend katharine kerr's deverry series or the dragonriders of pern series ( i forget who wrote that one, what does THAT tell ya :rolleyes: )

talyn rahl

27th June 2002, 13:36

talyn rahl

27th June 2002, 13:37

oh return of the king sukked to

Cypher

27th June 2002, 16:01

Guess no one here has read the MAgelord trilogy, by thomas k martin. boy, was that ever so horrible, especially the 3rd book, u read the 2nd page of that book and already know WHAT's going to happen and HOW.

Tayhlon

30th June 2002, 16:53

Series that I didn't like?

Shannara (read all of Sword of Shannara and hated it all)
ANYTHING and I do mean ANYTHING written by Steven King (I just don't like his writing style, I guess)

And Arawis, the Dragonriders of Pern was written by Anne McCaffery. I really like that series, and I'm curious which of the series did you read? The original series (comprised of Dragonflight, Dragonquest, and The White Dragon) is by far the best of the books, and the place to start. But hey, if it's not your cup of tea, no problem.

Arawis

30th June 2002, 21:54

if that is the one with lessa and f'lar (i think those were the names) and the kid who got the 'runt' dragon, then yes those are the ones i read. the only ones.

but on the other hand, I like shannara so, your right. if its not your cup of tea..... haha i like that sayng, its funny :)

talyn rahl

13th July 2002, 14:58

I tried to read "The cycle of fire" books but they sukked ssssssooooooooo much i stopped about half way through

Nachtnoir

13th July 2002, 22:21

Thoug it may be an unpopular opinion, I hated the "Sword of Truth" Books. I can't believe Terry Goodkind finished High School English. I couldn't stop from heaving while trying to read the first book.

Then there is the Harry Potter books. I can't believe that this thing is so big. I bought the whole series for my nephew. We started reading it together, he even hated it.

talyn rahl

14th July 2002, 14:19

dude how can you not like SoT they're sooooo cool Zed is such a dude and Cara is one of the funniest chars i've ever read in a book.

i can understand harry potter tho, i like them but they are a bit to
sikkly sweet for sum people
you should try the 'his dark materials' series by phillip pullman there sssoooo much better

Arawis

14th July 2002, 15:31

you know nachtnoir..... (what does 'noir' mean?) .....if you dont like them....you can send those books on over to me....ill be glad to take them in :)
yes, cara is cool, but i didnt really like that series either, it was ok, but not great.

yes, you should read his dark materials. :) its a trilogy:
The Golden Compass
The Subtle Knife
The Amber Spyglass

Elin

15th July 2002, 12:44

i kinda lie and don't like this series its the wizard of earthsea. the first one was like the first proper fantasy books i ever read and its brilliant..... but the second and third REALLY sukked!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry.

Well, I love those (of course I pretty much worship Ursula le Guin so it figures...;) ). I was pretty young when I first read those, and I remember not liking "The Tombs of Atuan" very much then, but on rereading it, it resonated with me much more. The last one I liked when I was younger too... I think I read an interview with her once when she said that the (symbolic) theme of the second one is sex, and the theme of the third is death. The latter is pretty obvious, the former maybe not so...

*seconds the recommendations of "His Dark Materials"*

talyn rahl

15th July 2002, 13:49

noir mean black Arawis and im gunna re-recomened his dark materials coz they are one of my fave series for kids EVER so i think 2 recomendations in one post isn't at all ott

Arawis

15th July 2002, 14:10

noir means black? so black night.............? is that what it means?
:confused:
:umm:
~runs away~

LaughingTurtle

15th July 2002, 14:33

Yeah it's french.....have you ever seen a film noir? a black movie? Like the Maltese(sp) falcon, LA confidential, Double Indemnity, etc ;) :D

talyn rahl

15th July 2002, 15:02

black night .... that makes sense... wow i know sumthin in a foriegn language :)

val7

16th July 2002, 10:34

The worst series I started was The Shining Court series by somebody I can't remember. The first book is the Broken Crown (or maybe *that*'s the name of the series...) and they are WoT length books filled with nothing. The summary of the series sounds interesting, but the books are just paper and ink.

talyn rahl

16th July 2002, 14:58

That happens so often, you read the synopsis and it sounds great then you read the book and it suxx

Arawis

16th July 2002, 19:06

true.

Dashiva

17th July 2002, 00:21

I submit, for the list of bad fantasy series, all of Shasteff's "Warlock" series after book 6, and the last book of "A Wizard in Rhyme". They seem like nothing more than a way for him to show off his big, fancy edumication.

talyn rahl

17th July 2002, 14:08

that would also be seriously sukky

Arawis

17th July 2002, 19:52

edumication........ :confused:

please! a little clarity for the less-literate!! :D :p

Travis

22nd August 2002, 06:09

No ones mentioned Conan........

Aragorn

26th August 2002, 16:40

Originally posted by LaughingTurtle
Yeah it's french.....have you ever seen a film noir? a black movie? Like the Maltese(sp) falcon, LA confidential, Double Indemnity, etc ;) :D

OH, so they're not like Friday, New Jack City, etc...

:eek:

Me so clever. :blush:

Johan

26th August 2002, 16:56

New Jack city? an episode of father ted? whats that got to do with owt?

Aragorn

27th August 2002, 15:48

...

Arawis

28th August 2002, 19:35

:umm:

Kolo al'Jaden

28th August 2002, 23:34

I did not want to take the f**cking time to read the whole thread so this might have been said already but... I think a bad series that you should not read is... *drum roll* DRAGON LANCE! I hate those books they are so gay... thats all

Aragorn

29th August 2002, 00:21

YOU'RE gay. At least Weiss and Hickman can spell "Mountain".

Arawis

29th August 2002, 22:14

jajaja :p

The Tourist

30th August 2002, 18:08

I really find the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever by Stephen Donaldson REALLY dull. He writes quite similar to Tolkien, but he just doesn't have any warmth or suspense or very good characters to keep you reading. I guess the main character is quite original considering he's such a bastard and you hate him at first, but the books themselves are really boring.
I've also read His Dark Materials Trilogy by Phillip Pullman, which Arawis mentioned earlier on this thread. In the UK "The Golden Compass" is actually called "Northern Lights," although I certainly think the American title is better. Goes better with the titles of the other two books. Anyways, I read some of the first book, but didn't really enjoy it that much. Pullman does write very well and his world does seem quite interesting, but for some reason it doesn't my kind of thing. I'm going to give the series another go though, when I get time from all the other books I'm reading (namely a certain series by a slow writer from South Carolina who collects pipes)

talyn rahl

1st September 2002, 16:00

GRRRR no one is allowed to insult Dragonlance they rule a lot except for the last ones, the twin ones, they were a bit bizarre, and the solo efforts, they REALLY sucked but the origionals were Classic

Arawis

1st September 2002, 17:51

i havent read dragonlance but this kid in my grade i swear he has like very single one in the series.....he reads like 5 books at a time and brings them all to school....hes quite the strange... :umm:

yah tt, my fav is the subtle knife...i dunno why...i thinkits cuz i like will. and we see more of serafina pekkala and i like her too. and ruta skadi is pretty cool too, i thinkim like her, only les pretty ~nods~ and lee scoresby. and iorek.

talyn rahl

2nd September 2002, 15:14

so everyone then ? LOL coolcoolcool

Arawis

2nd September 2002, 21:28

well, not EVERYONE :D almost tho ;)

mindphone

2nd September 2002, 23:29

Originally posted by The Tourist
I really find the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever by Stephen Donaldson REALLY dull. He writes quite similar to Tolkien, but he just doesn't have any warmth or suspense or very good characters to keep you reading.

this is true.

as far as your comment regarding 'his dark materials' goes, try and give the books another chance and also remember that they are geared for a younger audience. you are not going to find the extremely complicated plot twists etc. of more advanced fantasy series but overall i thought 'his dark materials' turned out to be quite a nice little story overall.

Hazz

4th September 2002, 11:48

I can't recommend the Sword of Truth series with a clean concious. I'll admit, I have read most of the books, but I'm not proud of the fact. There is no direction in the series, the world is poorly developed, the writing is preachy, the characters are not believable and its a blatant rip off of the Wheel Of Time.

With all that said, they are easy and fun to read.

Aragorn

4th September 2002, 12:33

How is it a blatant rip off of WoT? The characters and storyline are entirely different.

Cypher

4th September 2002, 13:19

that's kinda like saying Wot is a blatant rip off of lotr

talyn rahl

5th September 2002, 13:20

GRRRR this thread just gets worse and worse you start off insulting Dragon lance then you start to insult Sword of Truth!!!!!! no one insults SoT!!!!!!!!!!!!! its the third best fantasy series EVER!!!! (After WoT and Belgariad IMHO) the last one was a bit duff but all the rest are brilliant and its nothing like WoT except for the obvios simmilarities that are in all fantasy series.

Lews Therin

5th September 2002, 17:20

i havent read any fantasy i could call bad, yet (hasnt read much fantasy)

The Wheel of Time rules though!!!!!!

--Lews Therin

Travis

9th September 2002, 03:01

Hmm, i will repeat,
Conan, the dumb fucking barbarian.
(RJ style)

Aragorn

9th September 2002, 10:34

Barbarians are stoopid.

Travis

12th September 2002, 20:14

...yer.

Chiv

24th September 2002, 10:38

The Wheel of Time ends with The Dragon Reborn. Everything after that is a horrible figment of your imagination.

talyn rahl

28th September 2002, 18:19

i have to re-submit the wizard of earthsea books, they are ssssssssooooooo shit i read them when i was little (before i had any comman sense) and thought they where good, i have just finsihed re-reading them.......... damn was i wrong.............so so so wrong....... it has to be the most boring, plotless, sensless piece of rubbish i have read, they suck large donkey dicks anyway thats my rant over and done with ....... they suck !!!

Sorrowmind

6th December 2002, 15:48

Dunno, I didn't liked Orson Scott Card's Alvin series that much. Propably because it was written by american, For americans from America and americans and I am not american... Yeah, it improved eventually, but generally it was miracle I could read it end...

James

7th December 2002, 10:00

Originally posted by talyn rahl
GRRRR this thread just gets worse and worse you start off insulting Dragon lance then you start to insult Sword of Truth!!!!!! no one insults SoT!!!!!!!!!!!!! its the third best fantasy series EVER!!!! (After WoT and Belgariad IMHO) the last one was a bit duff but all the rest are brilliant and its nothing like WoT except for the obvios simmilarities that are in all fantasy series.

Talyn I share your anger.

SoT a rip-off of Wot? that is the most outrageous thing I have ever heard. sure their are small similarities but they are just fucking coincidences.

Dragonlance is the first fantasy series I ever read, at age 10, and I still love them. Raistlin is the greatest character in any book ever written ever in the history of the world. Ever.

No series I can't recommend, if the first book isn't any good I usually give up, though I did struggle through LoTR

By the way did anyone else notice Terry Goodkinds little dig at RJ in Soul of the Fire?

Buckweet

7th December 2002, 12:37

I agree, I happen to be a big fan of SoT. And all of you must admit that even Jordan ripped off someone... *coughs*Dune*coughs* let alone Tolkien.

Its not the small stuff that you rip off people but how you use it.
Terry Goodkind is an excellent writer and deserves just credit for his work on SoT. I have to admit that Pillars of Creation could have been a bit better but it still is way better than PoD and WH combined. So nye :p

LaughingTurtle

7th December 2002, 12:57

I disagree bucky, whereas I too read SoT ~something to do while waiting for other books of GRRM, RJ, or Hobb to come out~ I found that Pillars of creation was one of the worst pieces of crap I have read in a long time. It wasn't the writing that was bad, but more of a personal issue, the main characters of the series didn't show up til the end of the book, nearly the last chapter in fact! PoD and WH couldn't be that bad, I mean just think of a WOT book that focused all on some new character but didn't touch Rand, Mat, Perrin, any of the women til the last chapter...me thinks RJ would be ripped a new one for that, heh.

But yeah, other than that, SoT is ok. As I've said before, there are only so many plotlines that an author can do, and while in many fantasy books there are similiarities in certain elements, if the author is good enough, they will be able to twist things around and change the details enough so that only the basic idea remains similiar. Aiel, Fremen....similar yes, but also quite different.... meh

Buckweet

7th December 2002, 16:20

agreed.

But I still think that PoC is way better than PoD

James

9th December 2002, 02:47

yeah. pillars of creation was a bit lame. I skimmed through most of it. no-one noticed the lurk-thing in SotF?

ah well, Another name for mydraal is a Lurk, and in SotF Zed uses the name lurk to fool Richard, and later on says how not scary it is, laughable in fact, which is the opposite of what RJ intended.

*realises he reads too much*

*picks up a book*

talyn rahl

13th December 2002, 08:53

ive just re-finished Wizards First Rule DAMN i love that book, its ssssooooo cool, Cara is sooo funny, which is your favourite SoT cook? mine would be FotF or ToW there the best two (IMO)

James

13th December 2002, 09:47

I don't know about cook, but I liked FotF and BotF the best. Nicci rocks, I wish she hadn't turned good :(

talyn rahl

13th December 2002, 14:19

she didn't exaclty turn good..... shes still mental and all, she's just been sucked in by Richards Charms, can't remember much about BotF was that the one that ended with the huge fight with all the people including the Gars? coz that was cooooool Gratch turnign up in th4 nick of time to Bitch slap..... the Blood of the fold, so yeah BotF kicked arse

Molimo

17th December 2002, 14:00

I definitely DON'T reccomend the Magic: The Gathering: Odyssey series of books. I've only read the first book, but it was truly, truly horrible... reasons given on request.

talyn rahl

18th December 2002, 06:05

go on then dude fill us in wot exactly was so appaling about them :( if we can't guess it already:D)

Nero

29th January 2003, 00:12

worst series = anything by ian irvine :mad:

Sparrow

6th February 2003, 09:43

Anything Eddings. If you have read one of his series you have read them all.

Nick al'Isen

6th February 2003, 21:55

Wow, here's a thread with some real longevity. I just couldn't pass up quoting LT here. These comments are almost prophetic. Okay the main characters did show up a little earlier than your "prediction", but the end result still seems to be the same. You sure you didn't have an advanced copy of CoT?

Originally posted by LaughingTurtle
I mean just think of a WOT book that focused all on some new character but didn't touch Rand, Mat, Perrin, any of the women til the last chapter...me thinks RJ would be ripped a new one for that, heh.

Unfortunately, I can't agree with the supporters of the Goodkind series. I tortured my way through the first book and read no more. If someone says the series gets better after that I'll readily believe them, it couldn't get worse. Flat characters I didn't care a hoot about, empty world, etc.

LaughingTurtle

6th February 2003, 23:39

Nostraturtle :cool:

JBRUM

24th April 2003, 14:22

The dragonlance series. They must be written for 5th graders. I guess the adults who like them probably like Harry Potter too(stupid, stupid stuff!)

Books 2 thru 6 of the Dune series. I actually read the prequels before any of these, I'm sure I have a different perspective. I don't think I've ever HATED a book as much as those.

Byrn

24th April 2003, 14:27

Eh, there are a few gems in the Dragonlance series. The Legends Trilogy, Weasel's luck, Stormblade. There are a few others, I haven't read a new Dragonlance book since 1993 though.

PresqueVu

1st May 2003, 16:45

J.V Jones has got to be one of the worst I've read.

A cavern of black ice its called - avoid! avoid on pain of death! (yes from me)

sample for you - chapter title - two men buying clothes for a girl

and an example of a sentence 'our closeness drew us closer'
*shivers in horror and feels a sudden urge to leap out the window*

God, its awful!

Byrn

1st May 2003, 16:53

Here's one I blocked out.

The Jackal of Narr, by John Marco. It's on a junior high school level. Very predictable and not original in one aspect.

Danae Drews

1st May 2003, 17:41

really struggled thru THE CHRONICLES OF THOMAS COVENANT tho read them about 10 years ago still plenty of other things that I was reading at the time stand out in my memory but these don't......don't want to be to critical to anyone who really loved the series but I didi'nt

Byrn

1st May 2003, 17:46

Lord Foul's Bane is slow, until Saltheart Foamfollower is introduced. I REALLY like both Chronicles Of Thomas Covenant. I like the whole Anit-hero idea. Plus Mhoram, Foamfollower and Bannor are each great characters.

Theoban

3rd May 2003, 21:59

The Deed of Paksenarrion by Elizabeth Moon - not a bad series, but had huge tracts of boring "and then I walked 10 miles" stuff, and when you get to the end of book 3 you think "is that it? The deed?"

The Rowan series by Anne McCaffrey - meandered into nothing by the end, almost no plot in the last couple of books.

The Tamuli by David Eddings (and Leigh Eddings) - I always enjoyed his other books, and the Mallorean was by far the best series, but the Tamuli really was a dissapointment. All the "I love you's" and "everything was alright again" really annoys me. And, if you haven't read them and intend to do so, turn away now, he becomes god in the end?? And turns it down?? Total nonsense.

But, chances are, if I don't like the first book in the series, I ain't gonna buy the rest so I can't say which series' I've read have been really awful - because I haven't read all of them as they're rubbish.

KevBrinks

27th May 2003, 11:04

POssibly the worst writing I have ever read is ANY book by Ed Greenwood. He writes in the Forgotten Realms universe, and probably his most famous character is Elminster

His characters are so o0ne dimensional it sickens me. All of them are little short of gods in the series. It gets terribly annoying to read about Elminster blinking his eyes and then blasting the enemies into another dimension or something, even if hes fighting the most powerful of the other wizards.
then there was Shandril, who absorbed some sort of misty thing and got this special ability where she could create this magical fire around herself which could not be protected against...she just points her finger at draco liches and fries them like chicken

needless to say these books are the most boring i have ever read, not to mention the fact that he sucks as a writer

And I also wouldn't recommend the Ender's Saga past book one. I know I could get flamed for this but many peoples opinions are going to be different. I for one think that tolkien is the best fantasy writer, but how many of you guys do? I found that the other books in the series were very hard to get through, and once Ender left it just wasn't the same...

Amelia Sedai

29th May 2003, 19:44

I totally agree with Ed Greenwood. yes I know he created alot of DnD stuff but his writing it way too flowery and somehow the females tend to undress or end of naked alot.

Sayuri Sedai

2nd June 2003, 20:19

A series i wouldn't reccomend... it would defenitly have to be LOTR... yea... i know a ton of people worship these books but i just don't get whats so amazing about them. I think the actual storyline is great... with the War of Power, the one ring, The hobbit who has to travel to MT Doom.... yada yada... but the way he wrote just slaughtered the story and i was dissapointed when i finally picked them up and read them, i was expecting something incredible but they just didnt do it for me. :umm:

LaughingTurtle

2nd June 2003, 23:08

Hype kills. Sometimes expectations can be placed so high by the media and other sources that nothing sort of perfection would live up. I'm just glad I read LOTR way back when, in a time where there was no hype, no media, nadda...just a group of four books on my dad's shelf.

Aragorn

4th June 2003, 01:33

Originally posted by Sayuri Sedai
but the way he wrote just slaughtered the story

~urge to flame, RISING~

Uh....

~tries to suppress urges~

Grr.....

~fails~

That must be because you're a dumbass.

Grim

25th August 2003, 04:35

i dunno dude i kinda didnlt like the way it was written either. all in quotes like a story told to a child. but i thought it was pretty good, and you gotta respect the fact that its gotten so many followers.

prophetic_joe

25th August 2003, 06:18

I totally agree about lotr i read them all about 5 or 6 years ago and then after the movie came out i started to re-read them I found that I liked the way the Characters behaved in the movie way better than in the books and no it's not because it's a movie and i can see it I just didn't care about the characters in the books as much and I don't recall that I ever did (except for Sam of course he has always been my fav fantasy char) I don't think he developed his chars. into very likable one in the books and talk about wasting space at the end of the return of the king UGH!

Sayuri Sedai

25th August 2003, 13:48

im actually going to have to take back the last thing i said. ive started to reread them, and im actually enjoying them. idk what my problem was with them the first time around. maybe its because ive seen the movies now... or something. ill admit that they still are defenitly not my favorite series... but im enjoying them this time around.

Dingdin

25th August 2003, 21:28

Originally posted by val7
The worst series I started was The Shining Court series by somebody I can't remember. The first book is the Broken Crown (or maybe *that*'s the name of the series...) and they are WoT length books filled with nothing. The summary of the series sounds interesting, but the books are just paper and ink.

Since you bring it up val, I have to reply:

The Sun Sword is one of the best series in my opinion. But it does require patience I'll give you that. In fact it contains a lot more than most series, though you have to work to follow the important details.

And you have to like character and psychology; otherwise it's probably a waste of time.