Get over it. This is a good picture regardless of what the author thinks of the Taimandred issue...
From:
liz
(Fri 06 Jun 2003 03:34:52 AM PDT)
lanfear looks like she's got a bread
From:
Elain
(Thu 17 Jul 2003 01:13:10 PM PDT)
I think you mean beard not bread, but it's true. What is he on about> Mazrim Taim/Demandred???
From:
Luke
(Tue 30 Sep 2003 04:02:30 AM PDT)
no depth, no feeling, no life!
The book makes the characters live and your pictures kill them!
From:
me
(Wed 19 Nov 2003 04:20:54 PM PST)
I'm sorry I don't think that there were breast implants for graendal and lanfear in the books.
From:
snakey_jake777@hotmail.com
(Tue 27 Jan 2004 06:59:53 PM PST)
You know, I'm not the artist of this, but I am AN artist, and you people are pretty messed up. You attempt to draw the entire group of Forsaken together based on the information that we have and not mess it up. Yes, Taim is probably not Demandred (and I can give you a page that can proove it), no it's not perfect, but I'll be damned if I've seen one picture of ANY of the characters in the books that I agree with, even in the World of the Wheel of Time Book. Sampson made an attempt, and until you all do the same, I'd suggest trying to keep criticism constructive.
From:
simnos_reborn
(Tue 30 Mar 2004 08:10:55 AM PST)
evan if its not accurate, its good art and a bit of fun. well done.
From:
Ndi Sampson
(Thu 20 May 2004 08:41:11 AM PDT)
lol. Thanks snakey_jake. I actually agree with most of the negative criticism about this piece. Now that you mention it, Lanfear does kinda look like she has a beard. The boobs could be more realistic (But I'm a hot-blooded young guy; what do you expect:), and I defineitly did skimp on personality when I was fashioning the characters. My rendering of most of them was cursory and superficial. Partly becuase it was difficult to create distinct appearences without rereading the series, and I honestly got bored after doing my five favorite characters. Most of the criticisms lodged here, I considered years ago. Keep 'em comin.
From:
Forever_Fade
(Fri 04 Jun 2004 08:36:49 AM PDT)
Hey, whoever can quote the page decrying Taim is NOT Demandred, please do so. I've been getting the distinct impression they are one and the same, especially on my latest read through.
From:
Shadow Dweller
(Mon 09 Aug 2004 12:30:49 PM PDT)
Nice "Family Portrait" there, even with the "flaws" present. Also for the debunking if Taimendred just read the thories forum...
From:
Alanna
(Tue 24 Aug 2004 05:09:41 PM PDT)
I don't see how you got them all to stand in the room without them killing each other. OHHH this is from your head? Wow that is realy good. Demendred as Taim? Don't think so. I might be wrong. What would I give to have your talent though!
From:
Tim the Slayer
(Thu 07 Oct 2004 03:51:00 AM PDT)
Wow, if only instead of sitting together for a picture they all went at Rand like this... One of my favorite things about this picture is how Moghedien is hiding behind the rest, looking at you like a Spider, waiting to strike. I also like Sammael, just how I pictured him before he bit the dust. Keep up the very nice work.
From:
poik n doik
(Mon 25 Oct 2004 06:01:33 PM PDT)
Why didn't you draw Balthamel with a mask on? And it would have been interesting to put in Osan'gar and Aran'gar.
From:
Hari
(Mon 01 Nov 2004 11:14:23 PM PST)
I love how Moghedien is hiding, so true to her nature! And I think Taim is a real, uh, inapropriate word, just like Demandred.
From:
matt717
(Sun 23 Jan 2005 12:26:04 PM PST)
why does lanfear have a beard? like the book said shes suposed 2 be hot, but a beard? like cummon. . .
From:
brett
(Mon 24 Jan 2005 07:27:38 PM PST)
Osan'gar is Aginor reborn.
From:
fain
(Fri 11 Mar 2005 03:38:27 PM PST)
I think it's quite good but Semirage is supposed to be darkly beautifull she looks like a man here. and on the issue of Taim Robert Jordan has been quoted saying straight out that Demandred is not masquerading as Taim...but i supose you never know
From:
Liselle Sedai
(Tue 29 Mar 2005 09:02:53 PM PST)
XD I love Moghedien peekeing out from behind the others! I'm a big fan of the Forsaken, and I love seeing them drawn together like this! =^_^=
From:
blademaster-ub
(Thu 07 Apr 2005 08:31:06 PM PDT)
I lovelovelove the forsaken GGGRRRRRRREEEEEAAAAT!!!
From:
Ba'alzamon
(Thu 21 Apr 2005 06:17:40 PM PDT)
Nicely done Ndi. But how did you get them all in the same room? Is this before they were Forsaken? I thought Lanfear was suppossed to be hot. Not burnt!! ^_^
From:
Lunchbox
(Mon 23 May 2005 04:12:29 PM PDT)
I do like how you have them set up, Be'Lal plotting, Moghedian hiding, Ishamael being the tough guy, Asinor being contempt, a lot better than anything i've drawn. Lanfear needs to be more attractive though.
From:
bebots_boo
(Fri 01 Jul 2005 02:11:42 AM PDT)
i dont care what people say but this pictures is so nice (lso love the myrdraal)
From:
Nadroj
(Fri 05 Aug 2005 07:03:31 PM PDT)
GREAT IDEA!!! I've never seen a group picture like this. I especially like the way Moghedien is hiding behind the other forsaken!
From:
Aviendha2
(Mon 22 Aug 2005 11:08:43 AM PDT)
This picture is not up to your standards. I think that you could do better.
From:
dark mat
(Mon 26 Sep 2005 10:46:57 PM PDT)
Nice pic, Ndi. Your artwork is very detailed. The only problem here is that Semirhage is black, one of the few in Randland... so we need to represent :)
From:
RandIII_Gaeshael
(Tue 04 Oct 2005 10:18:17 AM PDT)
good pic. a few things i think are that either Belal or Balthamel is really old. and by the time they are young again, they were in a different body, one was a woman. Also, Lanfear in my opinion is supposed to have a softer looking face, not so angualr.
And either Graendal or Semirhage, i cant remember which, wears black. And Demandred isnt Mazrim Taim. If u read The Path of Daggers really closely, u will find that out.
From:
Exa
(Mon 31 Oct 2005 10:20:11 PM PST)
Oh come on,,if Mazrim Taim is Demandred then u just spoiled LOADS. Yes,,I just had to complain about that.
I love the idea about all forsakens been together making a nice family photo, however,,this picture lacks detail.
I really enjoy what you did with Asinor, Asmodean and Demandred. The rest need a Ndi-Sampson-makeover.
I hope that you take another whack at it,,and make the characters,,more believable/human-like.
From:
smokin22@hotmail.com
(Tue 22 Nov 2005 07:03:39 PM PST)
I must say that when I first saw Lanfear, she reminded me of Michael Jackson. Nuff said.
From:
mmilion
(Tue 29 Nov 2005 01:41:03 PM PST)
Simply because you made a group picture of all thirteen, I congratulate you. I like how you made them all look dead serious and mean, which is necessary and easily forgotten with certain characters(i.e. Asmodean). I like how you presented Moghedian, but I think her looks could be improved upon.
Dont forget that Semirhage always wears black though. You really captured Be'lal, Aginor, and possibly Demandred very well. Kind of imagined Asmodean as less broad and more slender.
But I love how you showed him as the person he must have been to become one of the chosen. Not how we see him, kissing up to Rand.
From:
aielman
(Thu 29 Dec 2005 09:28:59 PM PST)
this is pretty good, but the fade i guess that's on he bottom middle there like a little green gobblin - ish lol.
From:
Brien Boru
(Sun 08 Jan 2006 07:23:13 PM PST)
Mesaana's got down syndrome, Ishamael finally managed to get some eye drops for his eyes, Be'lal is checking out Sammael's ass, Lanfear's a trannie, Balthamel left his mask at home, Semirhage looks like a governess, Graendal could puncture her boobs with her nails, Moghedian is about to be picked up by a pedophile, Aginor and Rhavin are about to fight, and Demandred is having an identity crisis. Oh, and you need to make Asmodean and Sammael more fruity, considering their recent sex changes. Though that biker look may be good for Sammael.
From:
JTG
(Fri 30 Jun 2006 06:42:34 PM PDT)
Taim = Demandred? You sure about that.
From:
andriana bulgaria
(Wed 13 Sep 2006 07:44:54 AM PDT)
it's really ... wondrefull
From:
ashan'alantin
(Mon 20 Nov 2006 03:12:34 PM PST)
I really think that this shows a great idea of what the Forsaken would look like.
From:
augustwest
(Sun 04 Mar 2007 04:53:47 PM PST)
Lose the mazrim taim reference please. I don't want anyone else to have it spoiled like i did.
From:
Dissapointed
(Thu 17 Jan 2008 09:44:05 AM PST)
Wow, I've just finished reading book 6 and had no idea that Mazrim Taim was Damandred until I looked at your picture. What a spoiler! But I think all of your artwork is amazing, you're very skilled
